Launch event held for automated trash petition

story and photos by Aric Mitchell
amitchell@thecitywire.com

Supporters of automated solid waste collection met at Sweet Bay by Creekmore Park on Monday (July 2) to sign the petition for a November ballot initiative that would move Fort Smith to citywide automated refuse collection.

Joel Culberson, organizer of the Automated Curbside Solid Waste Collection System ballot initiative, believes the issues previously discussed by non-automated supporters — physical difficulties navigating refuse containers, uneven terrain — could be alleviated through the Fort Smith Department of Sanitation’s Troubleshooter Program, which deals with collection issues automated does not address.

He is not alone.

Fort Smith resident Ken Kupchick, director of Marketing and Development for the River Valley Regional Food Bank, said the efforts of the sanitation department do not receive enough credit, and its Troubleshooter Program is largely ignored.

Kupchick said supporters of non-automated often use the elderly and geography as justification, “but you never actually hear from someone, who’s said, ‘I personally had this issue, and the Troubleshooter Program did not address it.’”

Kupchick continued: “I come from an era when the bread man came to your door. Then, I saw the Jetsons, and you could have things in the push of a button, and that’s where we’re headed. We have to make these logical progressions to get from the bread man to the Jetsons.”

Fort Smith Director Andre Good, a supporter of the ballot initiative, was pleased with the turnout Monday, noting that “we had 40 people respond on Facebook they would be here and sent out about 100 invitations. It’s the conversation that’s important. These people will go back and tell their friends and family, because it has the potential to affect all of us, with rates especially, increase or decrease.”

At Monday’s event, three hopeful City Director candidates — Keith D. Lau (Ward 1), Mike Lorenz (Ward 3), and John Cooley (Ward 4) — added their support.

Lau, who previously signed the petition, attended Monday night’s event, telling The City Wire he would be “leaving early to canvass for petition signatures,” adding that he “100% supports” the initiative as written.

However, two of his Aug. 14 primary opponents do not share his enthusiasm.

In recent interviews with The City Wire, Ward 1 candidate Ken Pevehouse said he is for automated, but believes the city should look in to “automated in the alleyways,” while candidate Liz Berry-Armstrong does not “believe that it’s a one-size-fits-all issue,” though she said she would not support an override if the people of Fort Smith vote the initiative into effect in November.

Good said the ballot initiative would not pursue the possibility of automated to alleyways.

“We already had that question asked to Baridi (Nkokheli, sanitation director), and we’ve already seen as a board that that’s not the direction we wanted to go.”

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Good noted that “obstructions, cost, efficiency, the number of trips it would take back and forth to the landfill, and the number of men you would have to use” would be counter-productive, but mostly it was “terrain, buildings, overhangs, and other things that encroach on the easements” that moved the Fort Smith Board of Directors against the automated service in alleyways.

After Monday's event, Culberson confirmed “50 signatures and 12 or 14 people, who have committed to canvassing.” Additionally, Culberson and other supporters will continue to collect signatures at Sweet Bay by Creekmore “on Monday and Thursday nights from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.,” through the end of July.

The deadline for submitting the 2,822 signatures needed to get the initiative on the ballot is Aug. 8.

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It doesn't get anymore

It doesn't get anymore obvious Ft Smith.....either you live, eat, and breathe all city meetings for the rest of your lives or you elect someone that will make these gut wrenching decisions themselves and not simply cater to the few who gladly will for the exquisite pleasure of telling everyone exactly what to do and precisely when and how to do it. All you have to do is read right here what the 5 candidates said...What you see is what you will get! Apparently the only ones in the crowd who would even bring up an override of a city wide vote would be these few people...over a trash can out in the front, instead of the back!

troubleshooter service

I have called sanitation 4 times in the past 2 months to get a straight answer as to whether the troubleshooter service could be used for my location where my yard is on a hill above the sidewalk. 3 answers were vague insofar as I was told that no automated is planned for my location on the Northside along 6th street. The 4th answer was that the troubleshooter would remedy the problem. No offer was made to actually "look at" my situation onsite. What I am concerned about is a repeat of the assurances which were given by non-authorized spokespersons in the past who told many citizens that the sanitation department would work with us......what we have seen is that they are working against us who have special circumstances. As far as a majority support for the automated, perhaps a campaign against bullying by a majority instigated by a "recreational troublemaker" would prompt straight answers about "doubtful troubleshooters".

Mirror, mirror

How ironic to hear you call others recreational troublemakers. Let's recap your story. You want to be on the troubleshooter program. You call three times and are told "the city is accommodating you by keeping you on manual service, signing up is a moot point." Unrelenting, you call a fourth time and are taken at your word that "scout's honor" you need assistance and are given it sight unseen. Where's your beef? If there is a "recreational troublemaker" in this story, it is you, bub.

troublemaker

If it were not for the fact that the story changes regarding reassurances from various city department, then I would agree with your assessment. I'll get back to you when this trash thing settles out when I will be told " we are sorry,if we need to accomodate you than the trash service will have to accomoadate everybody....just wait and see.

How Funny, Automated Or Manual Trash Collection

Gee, you mean the citizens may get to vote on a ballot issue? The citizens get to vote whether we get all manual or all automated? Sounds very exciting to me! But one has to ask, where were the choices on the front end of the trash issue? Why weren’t the citizens allowed to vote on whether the citizens wanted “Government” or “Competitive Bidding” trash collection? A ballot issue as such would have surely kept down prices and I venture to say, everyone would have been better off. It was just a couple of weeks ago and our director of sanitation wasn't willing to compromise, but when the board of directors mentioned bringing in private companies to bid for the manual, well, things changed fast. Our director of sanitation was willing to compromise. Our city hasn’t really considered what is best for all residents. Some residents are unable to wheel the big cans. Some residents just don’t have much garbage. One private trash contractor in NWA, provides residents who are unable to wheel the big cans or just don’t have much garbage with garbage bags they can purchase and lay out at the curb. These residents have no sanitation charges, just the cost of the bags. Jonesboro, Arkansas doesn’t even charge residents for automated sanitation, it is provided through the 8.5% sales tax, while Fort Smith charges an additional $13 plus tax for sanitation, which could add up to an additional $5,000,000 a year in revenue. I just don’t believe the city is giving residents any real competitive options.
Gee, you mean the citizens may get to vote on a ballot issue? The citizens get to vote whether we get all manual or all automated? Sounds very exciting to me! But one has to ask, where were the choices on the front end of the trash issue? Why weren’t the citizens allowed to vote on whether the citizens wanted “Government” or “Competitive Bidding” trash collection? A ballot issue as such would have surely kept down prices and I venture to say, everyone would have been better off. It was just a couple of weeks ago and our director of sanitation wasn't willing to compromise, but when the board of directors mentioned bringing in private companies to bid ...>> Read the entire comment.

Jack_Automated

Automated is the way to go no doubt. It is the cheapest for everyone. I have not heard anyone explain why automated want work in all neighborhoods. The city have trucks with rear lifts so the argument about side lifts hitting power lines doesn't hold water. I think people just want to throw their trash bags in the alley. Why let a few hundred(minority)citizens dictate? In November the majority will win then we will have automated pickup for everyone.

Jack Competitive Bidding

I had Altes for years and they did a pretty good except they left oil stains on the street and the trash cans would windup thrown in the yard or left in the middle of the street. I still don't understand why the trash can not be put in city trash cans. If the old and disable can not wheel the cans just leave in the alley next to their yard. How do these old and disable take their trash out now? I think the city automated trash cans are wonderful. The best thing since slice bread.

Let Free Enterprise Work, It Works Best

Randy, I don't think I even mentioned a specific company, even though Altes has a long history with the residents of Fort Smith. There are other private sector companies willing to compete in a bidding and competitive market. I am extremely proud to have lived in an era where I have known and witnessed the advantages of free enterprise. We have just begun to see how uncompromising and inflexible our city government can be in trash pickup. My thoughts are as long as there is private companies willing to compete for the business, they should be allowed to compete, while the city's job is to ensure the companies perform according to their contracts.

not really

free enterprise means a bidding situation. lowest price wins. lowest price loses money. lowest price cuts service. contract keeps them in place until term. Rinse. Rather. Repeat. customers get screwed.

"Not Really" Confuses Competitive Bidding with Crony Capitalism

To use a sports analogy, would a high school football team be competitive with a professional football team? Of course not. Competitive bidding means bidding against similar companies, not a weaker company. Competition is healthy. In crony capitalism, political connections are preferred over performance and therefore increases prices and poorer products and services.

trash competition

"Competition is healthy" That implies several companies bidding for customers rather than winning a bid. The LAST thing Fort Smith needs is five or so sets of trash trucks running on our streets and goodness only knows how many sets of salesmen calling our phones, ringing our doorbells and sending us mail trying to win our business. Let the city do it and do it right. Lord knows, you'll be watching for their first screw up.