Fort Smith Board talks bow hunting, Girls Inc. deal

story by Aric Mitchell
amitchell@thecitywire.com

Fort Smith Directors accepted the Girls Inc., offer to sell its property to the city for the sum of $107,500 on Tuesday (Jan. 8), but costs will not end with that initial purchase price.

The agreement came in a special meeting prior to Tuesday’s study session at the Main Library Community Room on Rogers Avenue. Following the special meeting, the board discussed a proposal to bring urban bowhunting to Fort Smith in order to control deer population.

A $100,000 portion of the total covers the property itself while the remaining $7,500 will pay the cancellation fee for a Jan. 15 auction that would have featured the property.

The city plans to use the purchase in repurposing the property at 622 North 7th Street as an indoor recreation center.

The Girls Inc., property was previously appraised at $800,000, according to Fort Smith Parks Director Mike Alsup, though Alsup was unable to confirm on Tuesday the date of the appraisal.

Alsup estimated yearly operation costs of “$250,000 to $300,000,” which he said was a “high estimate.”

“Once we get started, we’ll be able to find opportunities for cutting costs,” Alsup said.

The project will be funded through the 1/8 cent sales and use tax - the parks department’s share of monies approved through the city’s sales tax extension in March 2012.

Contingent on making the indoor recreation center a reality, the city will encounter added expenses including $150,000 in a full replacement of the building’s roof systems and an overall $1.4 million expense for renovation and parking.

The on-site facility is more than 16,000 square feet and includes a one-court gymnasium, swimming pool, and multi-purpose building that features a kitchen and performance area. The property also includes a field “that can be used for sports and outdoor activities,” Alsup said.

URBAN BOWHUNTING
During the study session that followed, Fort Smith Police Chief Kevin Lindsey recommended that the board approve Archery Urban Deer Hunts for the city of Fort Smith.

If approved, the deer hunts would be administered under the Urban Deer Hunt Protocol established by the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission.

The city of Fort Smith and the Fort Chaffee Redevelopment Authority (FCRA) would work with Arkansas Game and Fish regulations to determine appropriate hunts in order to control the growing deer population, Lindsey said.

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Fort Smith Director Pam Weber said that she would not support the plan. “I’m a mother first,” Weber said, citing concerns about the proximity of hunting areas to the growing developments in Chaffee Crossing, especially homes in which children are present.

Proponents of the plan have pointed to deer-caused traffic accidents and declining health in the deer population as reasons for support.

Ultimately, Fort Smith Director Kevin Settle motioned to add the item to the Jan. 15 agenda. Director Mike Lorenz seconded.

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Comments

Looking for deer in all the wrong places...

..bullet holes in the walls or arrows outside you don't want to live where hunters are within range of your family. I've done both. Well what else where they ever going to do with the old girls club after over two decades? This is one thing that really did need to be slam-dunked and that's just what they did.

deer ears

It's really disappointing when people, especially directors, comment before reading. What was proposed was bow hunting ONLY, within city limits, from a platform at least 10 feet in the air. Little Jimmy and Cute Suzie will be just fine, Ms. Weber, but they may not be if Mommy smacks the SUV into a running deer.

Statistics

When was the last time a deer and a vehicle had a collision within the city limits? I would like to see the statistics.

more to the point JQ

That statistic gets closer to reality with every passing year and with every expansion of the city limits. Anyone who has ever had a collision with a deer will tell you its something they would never want to have happen again (that is, if they lived to tell you about it)

Urban Hunting

Common sense would say the same thing could be said with any collision. I would like to see the statistics of deer collisions within the city limits. I am not anti-hunting, but I do think hunting within the city limits is generally a bad idea for the reasons given by those who are supporting this effort.

Spay Bambi

It all started with dog population control. The local culture means y'all gotta be allowed to kill something in Fort Smith. So if it can't be dogs, it has to be deer. Seriously though,think of all the gasoline we will conserve by not driving so far away from home to hunt.

some animals are more equal than others

But here's the thing, the Arkansas Game and Wildlife Commission is telling the City of Fort Smith that there is a deer overpopulation problem. We don't see Directors Merry and Weber jumping up and down about these animals! It has been reported that Arkansas ranks ninth in the likelihood of deer to vehicle collisions. The Commission is safeguarding by requiring each bow hunter to take an International Bowhunters Educational Course, pass a proficiency exam, pay a $50 fee, and carry a signed placard and permit at all times while hunting and only hunt from platforms at least 10' in the air. No hunting will be allowed within 50 yards of residences, houses, public trails, golf courses, parks, utility installations or paved roads. Director Weber would be well advised to read ordinances before voicing worry about accidents to people on trails, workers and nature explorers.

Distance

How far do you think an arrow can travel? I am willing to bet my grandmother could send an arrow further than 50 foot. I would be more comfortable with 150'.

feet and yards

Ummmm...not to ruin the party, but the 50 yards you want for grandma (the required buffer) is 150 feet.

Distance

According to several archery sites an arrow can easily travel 300+ yards. This is the best explanation I have found (however it was not an archery site, I did check it for accuracy) Q: How far can an archery bow travel? A: The answer to this depends on the design of both the bow and the arrow, as well some factors not under the control of any human (such as wind, humidity, temperature, etc); because of the distances involved, flight shooting competitions are held outdoors. In flight shooting, where the object is to shoot an arrow as far as possible, distances of up to 1222 meters (1336 yards) or more are achieved; the arrows are designed to be extremely light-weight, but strong enough to withstand the forces exerted on them when the bowstring is released. As of 2008, the FITA Men's record distance for a hand-held bow was 1222.01 meters, by Don Brown of the U.S.A. ("unlimited" division of the Conventional Flight bow category), on the 2nd of August 1987. The FITA Men's record distance for any type of bow (again, as of 2008) was 1410.87 meters, by Harry Drake of the U.S.A. ("unlimited", Footbow category) on the 6th of October 1979. Note: These record figures are only for FITA flight shooting competitions. There are other flight shooting competitions held/sponsored by other archery organizations around the world, and the World Record Flight Distance may have been achieved by someone at one of those other competitions, or even the 2009 FITA Flight Competition. Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_far_does_a_bow_and_arrow_shoot#ixzz2HiKoVZgg

City Limit Bowhunts

There are quite a few cities already in the state that allow deer hunting within the city limits. Chaffee Crossing has successfully allowed bowhunting in previous years to control the deer herd and I do not recall any incidents resulting from those permit hunts. Shooting a bow from an elevated platform offers almost zero chance of any harm to other humans. Most of the people that reject this idea either don't understand the importance of deer managament or they are just plain and simply against hunting in general. A majority of the hunting inside city limits will not be anywhere close a residential area. There will be specific rules regarding how close you can set up to a road or residence. I hope that it passes, there is a lot of good hunting that is off limits to eithical hunters as it stands.

Kick it up a notch

All the venison should be donated to feed the homeless and undernourished children. Let's get the churches' hunters involved with this natural solution here in the Natural State.

It's not the hunting, it's the hunters!..

I lived right by the Ozark National Forest....and the same as there they are spooked out of their natural habitat by hunters. Yes they might come here anyway but they are far more likely to exit a battle zone. Catch them in a crossfire, who knows they might open the door and get in the car with us. The problem is not with the hunters that follow the rules..it's the other 50% of them. Right now there are no problems with those hunters inside the city limits. Why not let a few of you hunt for a solid 4 months in the woods instead? The deer will come right back once the big bunch of you has left.

actually, we are talking about the hunted

here, they are spooked out as land is being converted to residential. I'm puzzled by your comment about cross-fire as this ordinance is to permit urban archery on privately owned land. You say a consistent culling works, so it sounds to me like you agree that permitting this will solve a problem. Besides, the chief of police endorses this.

Let the games begin..

I agree, with too many deer, killing them helps...assuming they live in the woods, they will tend to fritz when the shooting starts and they may run into you. May not hurt..sure won't help. Would you agree that the closer to where people live you do this, the more the chance they will see deer running around with arrows sticking in them? On the average, how far do you have to track a blood trail? Let's let people know what can happen.

in other words...

...let's leave this up to the experts, like the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, National Bowhunter Education Foundation and the Chief of Police, instead of "heart on their sleeve" directors?

Jurisdiction

If this passes and there is a problem with hunting to close to your house or property, who do you call? The Fort Smith Police Department or the Ark Game & Fish? Who has jurisdiction in this case. We already don't have the budget for enough officers and are understaffed.

Special interest experts biased with statistics

So who will bear the responsibility and pay the consequences when the studies and statistics prove wrong? Maybe the Police Chief support the proposal so law enforcement can discover who has guns.